Monday, September 08, 2008

Rogers Responds to the General

The General recently wrote Jay Rogers, the Executive Director of The Forerunner International Ministries about his call for an imprecatory prayer seeking John McCain's death should he be elected. Rogers, a big supporter of fellow pentecostal worshipper, Sarah Palin, hoped God would answer that prayer so that Palin could ascend to the presidency. The General suggested that it was wrong to state his plans in plain English and suggested he rewrite that piece of the post using God's Love Language. It's the babbling pentecostal worshipers like Palin do when they "speak in tongues." Here's Rogers's response:

Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 22:45:27 -0400
To: "Gen. JC Christian, patriot"
From: Jay Rogers
Subject: "Up" with imprecations

Great letter! I could not have written a better parody myself. You know too much! That's both a good thing and a bad thing for you though -- depending on where you end up.

One thing that I'll admit is that I am stupid to speak my mind honestly as much as I do.

(May God bless me or curse me accordingly.)

Many Christians read the Bible where they encounter imprecatory prayer all the time. So if it is not "Christian" to pray such prayers then many of the Psalms are not "Christian" because they have David praying for Saul's death.

The purpose of the imprecatory Psalms is to remind us that God is sovereign and he "is angry with sinners every day" -- Psalm 7.

I am Protestant, but I think that the Roman Catholic church is right when they put ashes on people's foreheads each year with the admonition, "Remember man that thou art dust and to dust thou shalt return."

I am not deluded enough to think God kills people if I ask Him to. I have no power over people's lives. They are free to do as they please. But people need to be reminded that there are both temporal and eternal consequences for unrepentant sin.

God is your judge, not me, but I can literally "love" you to death by not telling you this. Real love is warning politicians and the public that votes for them of God's consequences for sin.

These six things does the LORD hate: yes, seven are an abomination to him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that devises wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaks lies, and he that sows discord among brothers. -- Proverbs 6:16-19

You may agree or disagree with this, but this is an example of an imprecatory proclamation. And doesn't it describe politics today?

It's amazing to me that so many people take great offense at the idea of imprecations -- the same imprecatory Psalms that called for King Saul's death also asked God to bless him if he repented. That is my attitude too toward our president whoever he or she will be.

It's funny because although I plan to vote for Chuck Baldwin, I am almost sure that because of Sarah, John McCain is going to win.

All I was trying to say in my blog is that she's next in line, so we might as well pray for John to repent and get it right OR (I wrote "AND" stupidly) that he dies quickly.

What the left is dreading would make me rejoice.

I don't think that's outrageous.

Many (conservatives in general) seeing Sarah and John standing together have thought the same thought, although they are not stupid enough to put it on a public blog forum as I have.

Doh!!

Maybe I have blogger's Tourette Syndrome?

Here's our new campaign slogan:

"Sarah -- one heartbeat away from the presidency!"


"3. Pray for John McCain's salvation and speedy death. (Google The Forerunner's articles on Imprecatory Prayer if you think this is harsh)."

But, just a moment ago, as I went back to the post to get a link, I noticed that you changed number three to say:

3. Pray for John McCain's salvation and pray specific imprecatory prayers if he fails to pro-actively defend the sanctity of human life.

It was a mistake to make that change. Think about your audience. They aren't the most imaginative bunch, and they're pretty much opposed to book learnin' in any form that doesn't include the Bible--I mean for heaven's sake, they believe God flooded the earth because demonic giants were after our white women and that Noah was too lazy to build an ark large enough to save the dinosaurs. Do you really think they're capable of understand that "specific imprecatory prayer" means "ask God to smite McCain's sorry ass?" I don't think so.

Christians understand it if they've ever read the Bible. Most don't read the Bible though. This is one place where you are incorrect.

There is a lot of ugly stuff in the Bible that is impossible to understand until you know a God who is holy and just -- as well as being a God of love and forgiveness.

I understand why you might have had second thoughts about calling for McCain's death. It makes you appear a bit crazy to just about everyone but the Palins and their fellow dominionists. But I think there's a way to get that message out to your target audience without anyone else catching on. All you need to do is "type in fingers" using God's love language. That way, only the righteous will understand it.

Here's how I'd write it:

3. Pray for John McCain's salvation and boogaboogula nawdami gabba gabba hey! (Google The Forerunner's articles on Imprecatory Prayer if you think this is harsh).

Of course, you may prefer to substitute "Awop-bop-a-loo-mop alop-bam-boom" for "gabba gabba hey." I made my choice based on a desire for brevity, but it's just a stylistic difference, really. Both phrases basically mean the same thing, the only difference being the size of the anvil. That said, expressing God's love language by "typing in fingers" is new to me--I prefer the results I get when I hungrily apply my tongue in the feverish expression my own personal love language--so my written translation skills may not be as developed as yours.

I hope my suggestion works out for you.

Heterosexually yours,

Gen. JC Christian, patriot